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2007

Y League - updated 11/28

I continue to update the article  regarding the Y League and its local implications.

It has been brought to my attention that parts of my article have some factual errors or omissions.  I have posted the corrections the end of the article and made corrections in the article.  The individual who pointed them out to me is an individual who does know more about US Club Soccer then anyone else in the area because of his long involvement in US Club and I stand corrected.

Scroll Down to News for information on 2 West Michigan teams in Super Y National semi-Finals.

Who reads WM Soccer?

Some one at the Grand Rapids Crew JRs must read since they have posted an editorial about the Y League and the reasons behind their current policy.  This was in response to my ramblings on here. 

It has a catchy title.

Super Why?!

read the editorial >>>

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Super Y National Finals

This may prove to more interesting to some than to others but it still is exciting for West Michigan

Two teams representing the Kalamazoo Kingdom have reached the semi-finals of the Super Y National Playoffs.

A 3rd team, the U14 girls qualified for pool play but did not advance.

Read the U14 G story

Here is a link to their website.

Kalamazoo Kingdom

Of local interest is the U15 team coached by Jim Fuller and Lawrence Murray.  The team is primarily made up of his current Vardar West team (formerly Georgetown Rangers & Grand Valley Premier) that has been one of the two top teams in its age group in Michigan for 4 years.

They had to win their 3rd game (against the #1 team in the country - Santa Cruz) to advance and tied 1-1 with 10 minutes left went to a 2-3-5 (yes, that's right...2 defender, 3 midfielder and 5 forward) formation.  The gamble paid off as Forward Nermin Crnknic (East Kentwood) blasted a left footed eight yard shot into the roof of the net with less than 30 seconds to go.

U15 Scoreboard

Here is a link to a story about the semi-final match. 

read more >>>

The U13 B Kingdom team also made the semi-finals. 

U13 Scoreboard

Commentary

The Super Y in West Michigan has been something of a problem for clubs and parents for years. 

First, the PDL team at that time, West Michigan Edge had it but they had no youth teams or club to actually form teams so they rounded up kids to play on a weekly basis.  It was always fun to watch the manager introducing himself to parents and kids, getting their ids and printing game cards out of the back of his car.  You never knew who was going to play.

Second, Grand Valley Premier got it and created a issue with the individuals that owned the EDGE which carried over when the EDGE management left and opened up the West Michigan Fire.

Then like the proverbial tiger by the tail, GVP didn't know when to let go when it became a problem and it was one of the contributing factors that led to their downward spiral that ended in the merger with one of the larger GVSA clubs, GRASA and the combined group's rebirth as the Grand Rapids Crew Juniors.

Third, the West Michigan Fire got it back from GVP and realized only after getting it that it was something that sounded better talking about having it then it was in reality.

And that was just around Grand Rapids.

UPDATED:  It might help to understand the real purpose behind the Y League.  It isn't altruistic.  It isn't to help the players although in some instances it does.  The real reason behind the Y League was that the  United Soccer League (USL) folks in Florida needed to come up with a program that:

1)  Allowed them to offer clubs an alternative playing situation that didn't have the rules and restrictions of the State Associations.  It needed to operate outside the lines so that the clubs who had the Y League could draw players from those clubs who didn't while they were still playing for the original club.  This was similar to the original draw of US Club Soccer.  Both systems allowed clubs to recruit players from rival clubs without worrying about the so-called "poaching" rule (I will talk about that idiotic and unenforceable rule another time). 

2) Allowed the USL folks a way to make money and by doing so helped the clubs by offering them an additional revenue stream during the months when they were normally slower.

3) Allowed the USL folks a program that they could run without the "interference" of those that they felt were not capable of having "correct soccer minds", IE bureaucrats and administrators. 

US Youth Soccer has fired back with the MRL and something new this year called the Academy teams.  Their efforts have pulled away many of the top clubs (No Vardar or Wolves/Hawks play Y League) and forced Y League management to open the doors to entry to additional clubs.  This will keep the travel to a minimum and also keep the funds rolling in.

...US Youth Soccer has recently developed a National League which was meant to bring together the top MRL teams and because they offer u15 and u16 boys this may be in direct competition with the new Academy Program.

The MRL will be hurt by the Academy program along with Super Y, Red Bull National League, and any other competitions that are not officially part of the Academy program....

In West Michigan in 2008,  in addition to the Kingdom and the West Michigan Fire, the word on the street is that the Alliance FC and TKO will also offer the Y League to interested players.  This will end one of the biggest complaints of the Y League - travel expense - but open a new one - competition level.

UPDATED December 21, 2007

In the past, the competition level was hit or miss.  Out of 3 games, most teams could reasonably expect to get 1 good game and 2 bad games.  The bad games were blowouts either way (IE a win or a loss) and they were nothing to talk about if you had to drive 8 hours to get there. 

Now, the problem will be different.  If the Fire, Alliance, Kingdom and TKO all put teams in the Y League, each age will have ...

...the top 72 players...(who have the time, the desire and the money to play)

 ...from West Michigan playing. 

This is fine if you want to play the most of the best players in West Michigan but West Michigan is a fairly small pond when it comes to soccer.

Frankly speaking, something that few will do, in each age group:

  • The top 18 players or so in each group can compete nationally.

  • The next 18 players or so in each age group can compete regionally.

  • The next 36 players or so in each age group can compete statewide.

By compete, I mean that the players talent, skill and motivation is comparable with other ELITE players around the country.

This is the problem.

The ELITE player will not advance if they are forced to play within a group that contains less than ELITE players.

It would be similar to placing a gifted math student (easily performing calculus for example) in a classroom setting with remedial math students ( having trouble performing simple addition and subtraction)

Which parent among you would be comfortable with that?

Yet, that is what is happening when parents and ELITE players elect to play on the team that is not the top team team in the age group.

They are choosing to play, for whatever reason, to play on a team that contains players who are not of their caliber.

In every age group that plays in West Michigan, there is typically one team that stands out.  There are usually 2-3 others that are a step below.  Parents with ELITE players who truly desire the best for their children need to find those ELITE teams (wherever they are), set aside every other consideration and put their child there.

FYI:  For parents, the actual cost to the club of having a team in the Y league is roughly $245-265 per player based on 18 players per team.  That covers all costs and money for a coach.  Anything more than that goes directly to the club.

UPDATED:  Early on, it was very difficult to obtain Y League Club Status.  The Y League typically offered the franchise to those with PDL teams (which is why the Kingdom had it originally) and then only 1-2 clubs per state.   Recent events and club defections have caused the USL folks to open the floodgates, so to speak, and permit almost anyone with the desire ( and the money) to get in.

Which all leads me to the current situation.  Most likely, the only major club in West Michigan that will not be "officially" participating in the Y League is the GR Crew.  I say "officially" because many of their players migrate to play with the Kalamazoo Kingdom. 

This is primarily due to one of the hidden problems of the Y League.

No club wants to send it's players to another club (within reasonable driving distance) for a program that can be sold as something special and better that they do not have.  The Crew, by maintaining a relationship with the Kingdom, offers the same outlet for it's players, without the huge expense of time, energy and money to actually offer the program itself.

Now, some heresy....contrary to many opinions, the Y League (like the MRL program that local teams can play in when they get to be  good enough - top 4-6 in the State is required) has developed into an effective means of gathering strong teams into one location.  Unfortunately, this has taken place in areas of the country where there is a higher concentration of ELITE players (Florida, California and Texas).  It is no coincidence that these are also warm weather states where soccer is played year round.

As I wrote earlier, the Kalamazoo Kingdom sent 2 teams to the Y League National semi-finals which means they are considered to be 1 of the top 4 teams in the country. 

The U15 team is from Grand Rapids is primarily the team formed by Jim Fuller at U12 as a GVP team.  Like all good coaches he has added a few players every year as needed. 

The Kalamazoo U13 team is a good team but also contained 3 players from the Crew JRs. U14 team and 3 players from the Alliance FC so at least 6 of the top 12 players are from GR.

This type of shared player situation is the model for us in West Michigan but it must take a different form.

My Solution to the Chaos

A new organization must be formed and organized.  It will only do Y League and any other new idea that comes down the pike.  The Board of Directors would be made up of one member from each of the current Y League participants from West Michigan (WM Fire, GR Crew, Alliance FC, Kalamazoo Kingdom, TKO, CA United and TNT).  Other Clubs could join as some sort of affiliate.

This new club would offer the Y League experience and exposure to West Michigan players.  By setting aside our differences we can bring together the truly ELITE players in West Michigan on one team, put them in a position to play on a national level and bring the recognition to these West Michigan players that they deserve.

An additional benefit to this is that pooling resources, the costs can actually go down.

There are of course, many hurdles to this approach but nothing that can't be overcome with a little desire and the willingness to set aside the petty differences and disputes that can cause normally rational adults to act like they are sitting in a sandbox fighting over a sand shovel.

One of the biggest obstacles is that the Kingdom has a fairly strong Y League program and would be giving up the most to get the least.

It may be more viable to get everyone else to band together and run a second program to offer players at least two choices in West Michigan.

Ultimately, having the Kingdom, TKO, Fire and Alliance running around with the Y League will have West Michigan sending out mediocre teams into the Y League to compete and ultimately doom the idea to fail - AGAIN - as those with the experience and knowledge know it has already. 

CORRECTIONS:


...#1 The agreement between US Club Soccer and the USL came three or four years after the Super Y was started. Your references to US Club Soccer and it's reasoning for the league are not correct US Club Soccer is not the Super Y League or the United Soccer Leagues. The relationship is simple- US Club Soccer agreed to card the Super Y players in 2004 just as they agreed to card the Coast League in CA-S and many others since. As you know, the USL collects $1,000 per team per season and US Club Soccer Collects $16 per carded player, per
season.

#2 The Academy program is not a US Youth Soccer Program. It is a
USSF program. Many of the top clubs never completely bought into the Super Y. Vardar and Hawks/Wolves entered in some age groups but, never all. Have clubs left the program due to the MRL? Yes but, it might be safer to say that the MRL kept the Super Y from growing.

#3 The Kingdom u13 Boys team also has three Alliance FC players on it this year. The Chicago Magic u13 has an Alliance player on it (Joe Sweet). There may be others from last summer- I know of these because I coach them. Alliance has always encouraged our kids to play Super Y in the summer and released these players right away. In fact, I drove Joe to Chicago to try-out for the team and helped with the try-outs....

Abrahm Shearer
Alliance FC